Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna welcome Dr. Pippa Malmgren to MacroVoices. Erik and Pippa discuss the opportunities on drone technology and the leaders in unmanned aerial vehicles. They further discuss the issues of data privacy in the firmware and the risks of drones being used for terrorism. They go on to discuss her new book Leadership Lab. They discuss the new paradigms of leadership, the speed of technological change and slow rate at which governments are adapting.